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You can join the private beta now at http://boardthing.com
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What is liminal thinking?
This is a preview of some of the ideas behind a book I am working on, called Liminal Thinking.
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Let's talk about tools

Let's see, it started with this tweet from +Roger Parker:

Boardthing trailer http://app.looplogic.com/davegray/boardthing-trailr … Fascinating, intuitive #vizthink card-based video @davegray

Jason Grant:

Is this not something one can do with existing tools though? Even things like Google apps, etc? I don't get it.

Dave Gray: What's your go-to tool for this Jason? I haven't found anything that works for me yet, hence this project 

Jason:

My go-to tool is not to replicate real world into digital. I use masses of mind maps for this kind of stuff.

It means I don't really believe in card sorts as such, which this basically is a tool for. Or post-its.

I also find that doing any of this kind of card sorting stuff in real world doesn't achieve much, so avoid it.

Dave:

It seems that you're not criticizing the app but something much deeper. I hope you blog about it or something. 

My personal experience has been very different.

Jason:

I know your style of working quite well. I don't believe in underpinning technique for sure. Tool lacks a proper USP

The demo certainly sells it quite nicely, but the core question for me is 'what then' when you are done?

The last thing I need in my life is to add another tool to my toolset. I'm trying to do everything with less tools.

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Tried to keep it to the basic facts. There's more on Twitter for those who are interested. But I lost the thread and am hoping to continue it here.

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Moving a conversation from Twitter. I'll fill in details but meanwhile let's start in the middle.
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Help us out with the Boardthing business model. Please let us know your thoughts!
 
Hello Boardthingers,

We will be going out of beta soon and are at the point where we need a business model. At the moment our plan is a freemium model, with some features available in the free version and some features in the paid version.

We have a couple of questions for you:

1) Given the features we currently have, which of them would you be willing to pay for? What do you think would be a fair (monthly subscription) price for those features?

2) What additional features do you want to see that would be worth paying for? What do you think would be a fair (monthly subscription) price for those features?

3) Do you have other ideas for how we can develop our business model? If so please share them here.

Thanks!
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Focus on specific scenarios where this really ads value. Highlight those and develop services and/or add ons that support these high value use cases at additional charge. 
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Here's a link to the on-demand version of the webcast I gave yesterday "The Connected Digital Experience" http://bit.ly/1iM19HR
www.on24.com - Online events, with audio and video synchronized to your powerpoint slides
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Said with beautiful clarity.  

I've been approaching this understanding recently as well.  Living outside of my culture of origin, I've approached this from a cultural perspective.  Where culture is like a lenses or filter through which we view the unknowable reality.

Living at length in a separate culture, is similar to when two polarized lenses are overlapped.  However,  instead of blocking out the light where the difference is the greatest, it is the places where the difference is the greatest that seem to allow more clarity of the under lying reality. 
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What is liminal thinking? Some thoughts from my new book project.

http://www.davegrayinfo.com/2015/01/23/what-is-liminal-thinking/
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That was excellent! WIsh I could draw like that. I think I'll look for some classes. Thank you for sharing-- looking forward to the book!
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Ordered a copy recently and look forward to reading it. Thanks for the excellent summary.
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Hello Boardthingers,

We will be going out of beta soon and are at the point where we need a business model. At the moment our plan is a freemium model, with some features available in the free version and some features in the paid version.

We have a couple of questions for you:

1) Given the features we currently have, which of them would you be willing to pay for? What do you think would be a fair (monthly subscription) price for those features?

2) What additional features do you want to see that would be worth paying for? What do you think would be a fair (monthly subscription) price for those features?

3) Do you have other ideas for how we can develop our business model? If so please share them here.

Thanks!
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I like what Dayna suggests.
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Want to join me in Portland this fall for the Delight conference? If so I have a special discount code for friends: DGfriend.

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http://delight.us/
Delight.us by ISITE Design - Making digital experiences people love
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+Dave Gray The trailer for Boardthing is incredible. I enjoyed every moment of the demo. Thank you so much for sharing it with us here on G+.

+Alan Dayley What are your thoughts on the Boardthing web app kind sir?
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