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Governor Bob McDonnell wants drones flying over Virginia.

+Linda Lawrey
Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, a retired U.S. Army lieutenant colonel, says he is open to any technology that makes law enforcement more productive. The use of drones, which was recently endorsed by...
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If the drones are observing things happening in public spaces, I don't see the problem.
 
Simply citing "large government" +Jacques Dupuis will get you nowheres. That's no argument, no evidence, it's nothing. You are suspicious. So what?
 
"Alien invasion! Open fire!"
"What do you mean that was one of ours?"
"Why did it have a gun attached to it?"
"What do you mean it was a camera?"
"What do you mean the cops are outside the door?"
"Oh shi..."
 
The same with CCTV. The video feed is of a public space. What's the problem?
 
Used in a responsible and constitutional way domestic drones could be a huge resource and force for good in society. It won't do to object by saying "It could be abused, therefore it can't be allowed." That's just obstruction to no purpose.
 
+Joseph Moosman The street in front of your house is public space. A drone at 1000ft flying over that public space is going to see into your back yard.

At every turn we are seeing greater application of state resources to the surveillance of its citizens. This is never a good thing.
 
+Rickard Grönholm du upprepar en myt om brottslighet i USA som just nu befinner sig på historiskt låga nivåer. "Massive surveillance" är också att ta i. Ordentligt.
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+Dean Reimer Again, so what? Police helicopters and my neighbors and anybody walking by on the street can see into my backyard. I don't know for sure, but I would bet that the legal and constitutional implications of this have been thoroughly tested.
 
Why are you so eager to be spied upon, Joseph?

Seriously. Look at the UK's experience with CCTV cameras. They are hardly an effective crime reduction tool.
 
From your link: "There is still much research to be done to determine the effectiveness of CCTV cameras on crime prevention before any conclusions can be drawn."

Sure, there is anecdotal evidence of usefulness. And there are some rate numbers that may be correlated with CCTV camera use.

None of that changes the fact that we have seen an ever-increasing amount of surveillance, on the part of government, directed at its citizens. At what point do you suggest that it stops?
 
I suggest that it stops when the private sphere is entered. I also suggest that shared, public surveillance of the public sphere has many positive effects including being able to hold police to account for their recorded behavior.
 
Great. No more taking the dogs out in my jammies. They look like a prison uniform and someone is going to think I escaped.
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