Yes, freedom is personal and individual.. like I said i'm not talking about everyone being tied to everyone else. But for a society to work and not screw people over... we kinda have to stop screwing each other over and maybe.. just maybe work in harmony with one another and the planet when we DO work together? At least not work against one another? MAYBE even together to create awesome technologies, projects or whatever things would make the world a better place for everyone? THAT'S ALL I MEANT! Had I known the word collective was SOOOOOOO ruined by all these political labels I would have thought about it twice... but in my opinion, there has to be some form of "coming together" to opt out of the current system and create something different. You can go live in a fully self-sufficient earthship home if you want to be completely isolated... grow your own food and completely divorce yourself from others.... SURE we have that freedom and I don't see the purpose in taking that away. But it's not because I speak of collaboration that it's BAD either, i'm not forcing it i'm suggesting it because great things can come from collaboration. Don't you guys think??????