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Some people feel that Google's operating system should be combined with Android while others are vehemently against it. Which side of the fence are you on?

http://www.lockergnome.com/android/2012/12/04/should-android-and-google-os-be-combined/

It's funny that there's no middle ground in this argument. It "has" to be one or the other.
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I'm not against this in any way
Erich W
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I"m all for it android and chrome os will make a complete operating system for any and every device and could easily given a little time overtake windows and osx
 
Don't mind either way. The big differentiator between Chrome OS and Android is that you get full Google Docs functionality on Chrome OS, but restricted on Android. Really if Docs worked fully on other platforms I probably wouldn't love my Chromebook (which I use as a minimalist productivity platform) as much.
 
That looks like Microsoft  will have a rival in the world of computers!
 
I think that it would be cool switch modes like take the Nexus tablet dock it and get Chrome OS or something like that
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with chrome os and android merging you would get a more complete app ecosystem
 
Who Cares? Let them provide a product (or two) and we can decide at that point. 
Erich W
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I can't see how much longer they can stay separate both of them merging just seems like a natural part of its evolution
 
Chrome OS is an absurd. Google got an Android and it got a browser in it. So what is the point of booting into the browser directly?
 
It works fine as is but if cross platform compatibility could benefit both OS's I'm all four it. DALVIK VM bringing Androids apps to ChromeOS could be one thing.
 
Since I rely heavily (through choice) on many Google products, I'd say I'd have no issue combined....however does it really matter as far as the average end user is concerned these days?
 
lets see how Microsoft screws up with Windows 8's bastardization of the tablet and the desktop before we do the same ;) 

I would think to build a solid TV/Gaming Android would do a higher priority
Erich W
 
with them combined apps would be more uniform and buy once use anywhere would bring more value to app users and developers
Alan Ng
 
sooner or later it will happen
 
i actually don't think google will ever merge the two into one system, but rather just increase the integration between chrome (and chrome os) and android.

...but i'll play along for argument's sake and throw out some questions.

are we assuming chrome os is merging INTO android or are we assuming android apps will start to run within chrome?  

if we're assuming chrome os merges INTO android, is this really any different than just using chrome as a separate app, as it is now?  is it any different than using chrome within windows?  didn't google make chrome os because they felt people were only using a desktop operating system to open chrome?  going back to this model is a step backwards in that logic.

chrome os uses verified boot and tpm.  does merging the two mean android will now require the same security standards?

i hope they stay separate.  chrome os is great for the full desktop experience and it makes computing fast and simple.  android is great for the mobile experience, but typing emails within the gmail app and editing spreadsheets on android is hardly the same experience you see on chrome os with google drive's web version.
 
chrome os for keyboard, android for touch. although more cooperation between tjhem would ne nice.
 
I love the simplicity, security and speed of ChromeOS.  I say keep it separate for now.  What does it help to combine the two?  I would keep Android away from ChromeOS.  Now, if you have an Android device it would be nice to plug it into a large screen and get full screen Chrome which could give you a very similar feel to Chrome OS.
 
I love the idea of a dual boot ubuntu / android device. I dream of a phone that sits on a docking station with a keyboard and larger screen and works as a fully functional ubuntu computer and then picks up of the docking station and becomes an Android phone. How cool would that be?
 
I think you will see a combination of the two once android matures a little more.
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I'm guessing if and when they combine they will name it android os
 
Combined, opp lug android device in to TV and you get chrome desktop. :-)
 
Why would they name it Android OS?
There already is an Android OS
I don't see how it would fit into the Android OS releases.

I really don't feel that Android OS will become more like Chrome OS or vice versa.

I mean both these operating systems do something completely different.
 
I don't mind if Android and ChromeOS were combined.  What I would object to is ChromeOS replacing all desktop OSes.  I need the privacy of local storage.
 
A viable solution would be to integrate android within Chrome OS as a Chrome tab and open Android to cross-platform chrome users. If the goal is to integrate a mobile operating system within a desktop environment, why reinventing the wheel?
 
You can still have local storage on the Chrome OS +Aaron Harper

There are currently two very different ways to interact with these operating systems. One is touched base the other is not. +Fabio Basile

I still would like to hear how we could actually benefit from the combination of these OS because there already is an integration and that is through the ease of being able to use the Chrome Browser across multiple devices. that includes Android devices.

Yes we can use a keyboard- If I am going to be a smart ass about it Android already does uses a virtual keyboard.

How many people on these comments have a fair use of both the Android and Chrome OS?
 
+AG Restringere  !!! I never even though about bringing up Windows 8! Very good point.

Also you should check out this link if you really on use Microsoft OS for Netflix
http://lifehacker.com/netflix/

I have not personally tried it but thought I would throw the link out at you.
 
The only reasons for Chrome OS to exist, is that it's extremely safe + fast + simple. Adding android would completely destroy those. If you want chrome on android, just.... use chrome on android :P

They're different use cases today. Android is powerful and flexible. Chrome OS fits one very specific niche, but fits that one niche much better than Android. I can give out chromebooks to my lay parents and employees, and be sure that they'll never catch a keylogger. I can't do that with android.
Erich W
 
the problem with chrome os is that it needs androids app ecosystem and to be able to survive offline 
 
I would love to see it combined in the way of docking phone and having full chrome os. The. Undock with android. A little more app consistency and it would be awesome.
 
+Phil Courtney  Finally a logical way to combine the two while keeping them completely separate.

However +AG Restringere just linked a Linux page that already does just this expect it is the Ubuntu OS not the Chrome OS.
 
+Robert Lucy yeah Ubuntu for android is cool. But for Google I think just full Chrome OS would be much easier and more lightweight than Ubuntu. And would most likely be a more seamless Google experience.
 
+Robert Lucy I know you can store locally, but if I develop a document on a Chromebook, it will temporarily be stored on Google's system.  I think Google is the best in the business and by far and large trustworthy (as much as any company really is), but there are certain things which should not end up on the cloud like lawyer's confidential records, and items covered by HIPAA or ITAR.  
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I think there should be different tools for different jobs.
 
I feel that Chrome OS is too light.  Merging it with android would shore up a lot of those weak spots.
 
Solving different problems. You shouldn't combine a touch interface style with a WIMP style, Apple know this hence iOS and OSX. Microsoft don't. 
 
i don't know about this. They are different architectures. Such a combination would spell disaster.
 
I'd love official android for desktop computers.
 
I don't really see the point in having Chrome OS when tablets exist. Why would I buy a new laptop/desktop style computer that isn't for production use? If I want a consumption only device, I am happily served by the Nexus 7 or other tablets.

What would make me impressed is if they made a 'Pro' Chrome OS that had fully featured editing software that interfaced with the cloud. Imagine a Google fork of GIMP, polished up to compete with Photoshop, that plugged directly into the cloud. Or a similar video editing tool that allowed you to edit videos stored on Youtube before being published on Youtube.
 
+Aaron Harper What certification? I don't think that they have lot of work. Tablet looks almost like desktop, so....
 
Most devices need certification to run Android and have access to the app store.  This give Google some measure of control over the user experience and makes the difference in terms of reliability between say a Coby and Nexus tablet.
 
+Mate Ćurković I have not found a Gnome3 version of Ubuntu that meets my needs, so I moved to Kubuntu.  KDE4 has impressed me after a fairly brief learning curve.
 
I am all for the Hybrid solution, as long as the end users got full control over their data.
A cloud "only" solution won't fly in my opinion, at least not for all.
 
With smart phone getting faster and more complex with each new release, I think google will have no reason to keep both. I mean, look at that video +Chris Pirillo shared with us, the one where a guy hooked up his galaxy note 2 to a monitor and paired a blue tooth keyboard and mouse to it. If that video showed us anything it's that android and chrome are pnot that different from each other. 
 
In the best interest of consumer understanding and simplicity, I'd say merge the two.
 
I have several android devices and a chromebook so I don't mind if they get combined. 
 
I say merge em! This would be beneficial to "both" platforms. Phone users could finally obtain a close to perfect Web browsing experience with a much better Google Documens integration. Such as Word, Excel, Powerpoint enriched via cloud but having them fully editable offline as well. On the other end, Chromebook users could have access to some really interesting apps that Android has to offer which can create an even better experience for them.
 
As a non-chrome book user, I would be more inclined to purchase a chromebook if it offered more of a seamless experience with my Android devices.
 
In what way is this combined? Because I could see this being a great addition, say, if an Android user could plug in their phone to a monitor and use it as a Chromebook (possibly while tethered to a keyboard) but I can't see any other way of "merging" it that would be any more helpful than upgrading the Chrome app within Android.
 
I don't think that webapps are robust enough just yet to merit Chrome OS having a large share in the market when a phone or tablet can do the job better. 
 
Why does Chrome OS need to exist, in light of the size of Android's massive ecosystem and its capabilities?  What is the advantage Chrome OS has over Android?  I have a Cr-48 and I can't think of a good reason why Chrome OS exists.  And I would love to be able to run all of my Android apps on the Chromebook.  
 
I say ditch Chrome OS. Android is a much better ecosystem IMO and I like having the option to do work locally. Take the cloud capabilities of ChromeOS and integrate them to Android and adopt the UI for laptops/netbooks. Then we'll have the choice that we love and Google will have a more consistent unified UI just like Windows 8 and Mac OS
 
I've used Android with a mouse, and it's not the best way to do it. Schmidt said a couple of years ago that a union was on the long-term road map, but Chromebooks have such great management options for Google Apps organizations that I don't see Android fitting nearly as well in that role.

If they combine, I'd like to see Chrome OS when docked (with access to Android apps in the launcher) and Android when undocked (with Chrome apps combined in the app drawer). That's the only reasonable way for it to work for me.

Chrome's Offline Packaged Apps offer a unified way forward for applications, a la Firefox OS.

EDIT: It could probably happen right now. Put the Exynos 5 with 2GB RAM in a phone and offer a dock for it. Write some glue code the way Ubuntu for Android has done.
 
Chrome OS needs to be improved and Android needs to be transitioned slowly to Chrome OS. I wouldn't call it a merger because it's more of a transition. Apps are old school. In the future everything will be web apps and not apps that you download. The cellular networks are getting to the point where this is feasible.
 
Ditch Chrome OS! No hybrids (what does Chrome OS bring to the table that Android doesn't already have?), no compromises (dual boot? no thank you), just get rid of Chrome OS and embrace Android as the next desktop OS.
 
I would definitely take a hybrid. The seamless updates of Chrome OS, with the offline functionality and versatility of Android.  Win Win!   I also feel a hybrid would work with Tablet/Phone and Laptop/Desktop configuration well.
 
Chrome OS is for the future once the web can do Great apps, it can already do so much i see Android being merge into Chrome OS
 
As long as it works, I see no reason against it. I kind of like the idea of having an option to boot the chrome OS to the desktop/laptop while the cell phone is plugged in, while android is for the phone itself, yet still share resources (pictures, documents) between the two. 
 
please do... im almost due for a new phone and i know if it had a chromdroid os it would be the sh!t
 
The concept that all chromebooks could, some day, magically transform into android laptops... It gets me all kinds of tingly.
 
Could be done 2 ways, Chrome running on an Android base, or Android running through emulation in a ChromeOS window.  Either way, everyone gets everything.
 
What would the result be? I would think basically Android would get mouse support and a version of chrome that has performance comparable to chrome os
 
As long as Google doesn't provide a proper UNIX-like environment along with Chrome OS, then keeping non-Android userspace doesn't make any sense.  Develop the Chrome tablet mode and let everyone with either a tablet or a 'chrome book' benefit equally.  Market fragmentation is bad for everyone, avoid it where possible.
 
I say, let the pointless experiment called chrome OS die and build some low prize ( and I mean low! ) notebooks with android.
Also, be aware that bad hardware sells bad and that it is essential to have long battery times on a mobile device.
 
"Browser as an OS" is a pretty radical and new idea, but realistically this is restrictive, lacks functionality, customizability, user-created content and wastes Google's resources. Get rid of it now and just merge the good parts into Android.

So say we all :)
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I think they should rather concentrate in getting rid of Java.
 
No. Android is a full featured OS. Chrome OS fills the niche of being a thin client. What we really need from Google now is a fully endorsed desktop OS or a desktop version of android.
 
One question that often occurred to me, who is the target consumer of chromeOS and the chromebooks? For sure, most people don't need more then that, but they won't buy it because they like to have 2000$ macbooks to surf on facebook.
I don't see any use for professionals here either. 
 
There's also the chromebox. These devices are almost perfectly suited to
use in libraries,hotels, coffeeshops as public access terminals. There's
almost no maintenance beyond the initial setup. The thing Google really
needs to do is release their entire application suite on an appliance as
they did with the Google search appliance. Then they could sell an end to
end enterprise business solution for corporations that don't want to trust
their data to someone else's cloud.

Oh, btw, I've had a CR-48 since the beginning, one of the first batch. My 68 year old mother is currently using it to see if she wants to go that route for her next machine.
 
ChromeOS is a low powered light computer.  All you need is the browser so not be combined. You need a lot more horsepower for a Tablet, so out the window goes battery life if you combine them.
 
+Lyndon Bredenkamp The latest introduced chromebook has a battery time of about 6.5 hours according to the manufacturer, so probably less. I get up to 15 hours out of a thinkpad with a core i5 cpu, therefore I am not impressed.
 
NO NO NO , its should be android + ubuntu for android , chromeOS is just a web browser! instead of ChromeOS try this. linux with openbox , set up chromium to start on start up and wifi to connect and its about the same(if not quicker) bootup speed has chomeOS but its still a FULL linux box!!!!! just logout and log backin with another desktop like unity or KDE.
 i really wish google did not fork android and chromeOS from linux and just made android and chromeOS desktop environments that ran on linux, ( <<<< this may sound stupid later , but i am really stoned now and it makes sense) android apps on linux and linux apps on android. and linux would get there hands on much needed hardware drivers.
 
+Michael Kirmse I can only comment about my own Chromebook. It's the first Samsung Series.  I can watch video on that (Netflix) for about 6 hours.  A great deal more with normal use.  (10 hours plus) The new latest models not that great then. My ThinkPad (X201) gives me a max of 2 hours use.  What kind of battery do you have in yours?!
 
When I first heard about Chrome OS I thought "well... why not just use Android?" This position hasn't changed.
 
+Lyndon Bredenkamp An x220 with the 9 cell battery (the larger one that sticks out on the back). About 15 hours with wlan enabled and screen on 1/2 brightness.
 
If this actually became a thing, I'd be willing to try it, financial status pending. A unified OS is a good thing, but it feels awkward having a tablet using the same front end as a phone, like when you put the Nexus 4 and 7 side by side. I'm really contemplating the practicality of Chromebooks though, since they're not even on my list of things I think about on a monthly basis.
 
I would like to see google make a more advanced computer OS, Because i am not happy with Windows or OSX and I have trouble with compatibility with linux. 
 
I agree Luke, I really want to see a consumer friendly super friendly Linux based OS that can be easily reverted to OOB settings for computer illiterates. Ubuntu is so close but I can't confidently put that on peoples computers unless they know what their gettings. Mainly because of the lack of commercial support. It's getting there, but it's not there yet. If google can do to destop linux what they did with Android I'd be so happy.
 
Android and Chrome OS should combine in my opinion. While it's nice to dream of cloud computing there is still a need for physical space and hardware. One example is gaming, yeah there are online web based games, but the hardcore PC gamers are using Windows and in some cases Macs, because the traditional PC still does it best. Next there's the business and enterprise markets that have industrial grade software that is either too complex, too demanding, or requires local storage.

One big win Google could get with an Android based Chrome OS (or just drop the Chrome OS and call it Android for the desktop) is they could finally create the perfect Linux distro that unifies developers and users under a standard, and it could steal away the main business of Microsoft.

Chrome OS has already made more changes resembling a traditional desktop, such as more local storage, windows, and offline features to make it more usable. It still has a long way to go, but someday when Google finally just upscales Android and makes it a powerful desktop OS will be the day Microsoft will be shaking in their boots. And then users on the consumer and business fronts will realize they don't need Windows anymore because they can have it all with Android.
 
google should do it unbuntu style, Android as a mobile but when docked becomea chrome os
 
Would it be OK to have a three position switch? Run Chrome, Android, or a mix if both as you please!
 
combine these two into a single rocking device - like the recently teased (or faked) chromebook pixel, and I'm ready to buy.  Makes sense - you can be in chrome and be a chromebook, but have the option to close chrome and be in Android - Nexus Laptop.  Would make sense for all this to be building up to Google IO.  I've been struggling to see a 'big thing' that could be announced this year and now I'm very excited (shortly to be disappointed or blown away by something completely different)
 
I'd like to see them combined, but only as Chrome on Android. I do not really want Dalvik shoved into Chrome, I'd rather see Chrome be the same across all platforms and run apps on android. I would rather spend a grand on an Android Ultrabook and keep the chromebooks cheap at 200-300 bucks a pop. Android seems to offer more of a full PC experience than Chrome. Also, I like the idea of docking into a Chrome OS environment with access to Android apps, but I would like to see Google give the ability to dock or stream a Google TV interface from an Android phone. I think this would give Google TV a surge in use. 
 
Who is vehemently against this? I've never heard of anyone being against convergence, except maybe the people at Google. 
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