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I have not seen it and though I think it would be good. I am not sure it will live up to Pirates of Silicon Valley version. 
 
It reminded me of a made-for-TV movie. Worth seeing, I suppose - wait for it on Netflix - but I felt there were inaccuracies and holes left that Issacson's biography covered very well, assuming it is the most accurate version of Jobs' life. And I would agree that +Steve Wozniak's take carries a lot of weight; he's a very honest guy, and the movie was not unkind to him, other than it left out the fact that he tried to make up for Jobs being a jerk about the founders' stock.
 
Given the number of details about Jobs that were left out - and the movie was still 122 minutes - nothing short of a miniseries could be as detailed as is necessary to paint an accurate picture. Pixar wasn't even mentioned, if I recall correctly.
 
Its too soon. We need at least another ten years of perspective in order to begin to understand what SJ has done for society.  Its like writing a book about Ben Franklin shortly after his death.
 
Actually, the movie was largely a lie about me. I was an engineer at HP designing the iPhone 5 of the time, their scientific calculators. I had many friends and a good reputation there. I designed things for people all over the country, for fun, all the time too, including the first hotel movie systems and SMPTE time code readers for the commercial video world. Also home pinball games. Among these things, the Apple I was the FIFTH time that something I had created (not built from someone else's schematic) was turned into money by Jobs. My Pong game got him his job at Atari but he never was an engineer or programmer. I was a regular member at the Homebrew Computer Club from day one and Jobs didn't know it existed. He was up in Oregon then. I'd take my designs to the meetings and demonstrate them and I had a big following. I wasn't some guy nobody talked to, although I was shy in social settings. i gave that computer design away for free to help people who were espousing the thoughts about computers changing life in so many regards (communication, education, productivity, etc.). I was inspired by Stanford intellectuals like Jim Warren talking this way at the club. Lee Felsenstein wanted computers to help in things like the antiwar marches he'd orchestrated in Oakland and I was inspired by the fact that these machines could help stop wars. Others in the club had working models of this computer before Jobs knew it existed. He came down one week and I took him to show him the club, not the reverse. He saw it as a businessman. It as I who told Jobs the good things these machines could do for humanity, not the reverse. I begged Steve that we donate the first Apple I to a woman who took computers into elementary schools but he made my buy it and donate it myself.

When I first met Jobs, I had EVERY Dylan album. I was a hardcore fan. I had bootlegs too. Jobs knew a few popular Dylan songs and related to the phrase "when you ain't got nothin' you got nothing to lose." I showed Jobs all my liner notes and lyrics and took him to record stores near San Jose State and Berkeley to buy Dylan bootlegs. I showed him brochures full of Dylan quotes and articles and photos. I brought Jobs into this Dylan world in a big way. I would go to the right post office at midnight, in Oakland, to buy tickets to a Dylan concert and would take Jobs with me. Jobs asked early on in our friendship whether Dylan or the Beatles were better. I had no Beatles album. We both concurred that Dylan was more important because he said important things and thoughtful things. So a Beatles fan was kind of a pop lamb to us. Why would they portray us in the movie as Dylan for Jobs and Beatles for me?

And when Jobs (in the movie, but really a board does this) denied stock to the early garage team (some not even shown) I'm surprised that they chose not to show me giving about $10M of my own stock to them because it was the right thing. And $10M was a lot in that time.

Also, note that the movie showed a time frame in which every computer Jobs developed was a failure. And they had millions of dollars behind them. My Apple ][ was developed on nothing and productized on very little. Yet it was the only revenue and profit source of the company for the first 10 years, well past the point that Jobs had left. The movie made it seem that board members didn't acknowledge Jobs' great work on Macintosh but when sales fall to a few hundred a month and the stock dives to 50% in a short time, someone has to save the company. The proper course was to work every angle possible, engineering and marketing, to make the Macintosh marketable while the Apple ][ still supported us for years. This work was done by Sculley and others and it involved opening the Macintosh up too.

The movie shows Steve's driving of the Macintosh team but not the stuff that most of the team said they'd never again work for him. It doesn't show his disdain and attempts to kill the Apple ][, our revenue source, so that the Macintosh wouldn't have to compete with it. The movie audience would want to see a complete picture and they can often tell when they are being shortchanged.

And ease of computer came to the world more than anything from Jef Raskin, in many ways and long before Jef told us to look into Xerox. Jef was badly portrayed.

And if you think that our investor and equal stock holder and mentor Mike Markkula was Jobs' stooge (and not in control of everything), well, you have been duped.

Jobs mannerisms and phrases are motivational and you need a driver to move things along. But it's also important to have the skills to execute and create products that will be popular enough to sell for more than it costs to make them. Jobs didn't have that success at Apple until the iPod, although OS X deserves the credit too. These sorts of things people would have wanted to see, about Jobs or about Apple, but the movie gives other images of what was behind it all and none add up.
 
I think I'll give that a miss then.
 
We went & saw We're the Millers instead - Mashable & others didn't give Jobs a good review I'll wait for DVD...
 
You'll know more about Steve Jobs at Wikipedia! :-) The movie is crap!!!
 
It was an ok movie, but too bad, like Woz said about the inaccuracies. I like knowing now that Woz is a big Dylan fan.
 
Point taken, +Steve Wozniak!  Having read both iWoz and the Jobs bio prior to seeing the movie, I was aware of the gaps and some of the inaccuracies, but someone who hasn't heard this story before wouldn't have any idea that they were missing out on some pretty important information!  So I'll rescind my recommendation.  If you're going to see this movie, don't see it until after you've read these (they're on Audible, too), otherwise you'll be given a false picture of how important Jobs' contributions were in comparison to those of Wozniak and others.  Apparently I need to watch Pirates of Silicon Valley again - it's been awhile and I don't recall much about that movie...
 
+Steve Wozniak honored to have you personally explain this on my post. I appreciate you explaining how things really are to us. I don't understand why anyone will produce a movie filled up with misinformation! I think I'll pass on this movie altogether. I do look forward to maybe someday hearing more stories from you about Apple. Maybe a Hangout one of these days? :)
 
Mr.+Steve Wozniak after 5 months of your reply I stayed wondering and finally tonight I saw the Jobs movie and it was so good to see it knowing YOUR perspective and the account of how things actually happened based on what you wrote to me back on August.  I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for every bit of your time spent working on creating Apple computers. YOU are the true force behind this operating system which I love so much bc it makes my life so easy.  Thank you for dedicating so much of your youth to this project. Honored once more to have such unique commentary from you on my page. 
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Thank you so much for your dear expression.

The real thing everyone can agree on is that we are all thankful for Apple, what it means as well as the great products. What a journey.
 
+Steve Wozniak 's post should be the most "+ed" in Google Plus history.

True innovator and good person. 
 
+Steve Wozniak I'm curious, what do you think of Pirates of Silicon Valley? That movie at least shows you telling Steve you would give some of your stock to "the other guys" as you mentioned you did.
 
+Steve Wozniak The #1 reason IPOD became successful and single handedly revived Apple last decade was the deal with the recording studios to allow 99c single sales via iTunes. Of'course Apple executed all aspects of the product positioning (via design , supply chain etc) and marketing well. Have not seen the movie yet. Read The Autobiography.
 
I enjoyed “Pirates” more.

Josh Gad wanted the Jobs movie to include my giving stock to early garage members (about $20M of today’s dollars) after the company gave them none. They might also have shown how I sold a ton of my own pre-IPO stock to employees so that another 40-80 of them could benefit from our IPO. Each of them got about a house out of it.
 
As a long-time fan of Apple, I definitely appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts, Mr. +Steve Wozniak.

The history of Apple is so important to where we are with Technology, I hope more people show interest in how we got here.

Thank you for everything you have contributed, both past and present! 
 
+Steve Wozniak Woz, thanks for giving us the straight dope. I've always suspected that Jobs was more of a con man & scam artist than the great entrepreneur and visionary that his own self-promotion (greatly helped by Big Media) wants us to believe... 
 
Im waiting on +Steve Wozniak to release his own movie. That one I'll watch, mad props to a true tech visionary.. 
 
I'm looking forward to a Wozniak movie as well! That I'd like to see too!
 
I think I smell a kickstarter project!
 
Well, at least at first, the great marketer's story will be told loudest. We hope that in this age, more of the actual less-altered stories come out as the quieter, (frankly probably moe important) technical people find their confidence and voices!
 
iWoz has material for a great movie depicting a very significant part of the home computer revolution. However, I'd prefer a miniseries. There are other stories besides Apple's: Commodore, Atari, Texas Instruments and their price war, the IBM PC, the S-100 CP/M crowd, the tragic loss of Gary Kildall, Acorn and Sinclair on the UK... Those are all wonderful stories that deserve to be told to new audiences. Our own "From the Earth to the Moon" with +Steve Wozniak as host instead of Tom Hanks.

Yes... I'd like that.
 
+Steve Wozniak Any chance that we'll ever see a truer & more correct movie about the story of Apple? Would you help the directors get it right next time? (assuming they want to...)
 
Really enjoyed my Apple II GS. Never used a Macintosh. Thanks Steve Wozniak! 
 
+Steve Wozniak Thanks for the real story. Sadly, the engineers too quickly get pushed away from the limelight. We have too many problems we would rather solve than to promote ourselves.
 
I will never see the Jobs movie. Or buy any of his books. Or anything from Apple. However I did purchase the HP25 and HP45. Along with the printer, card reader, many modules, tape drive, etc. for the calculators. And I did purchase a few of the first Macs. However I have not touched anything from Apple since 1988. If Wozniak consented to running Apple I would become an Apple owner once again though...
 
I hope someone puts the content of that post into the movie's Wikipedia page. We all know who the true pioneer is here. Woz, you're truly a kind, humble, and inspirational guy.
 
For me one of the great mysteries is how Jobs is the guy associated with (and no doubt rightly) with so many successes. He wasn't a technologist, he wasn't a designer, and he was a world-class noodge who treated people terribly, yet under his auspices, there was the Mac, OS X, the iPod, iPhone, and the iPad. Even NeXT, no great success in and of itself, became the foundation for OS X. And Pixar has delivered as consistently as any studio. I have loved Pixar movies. How did this narcissistic bastard manage to find, retain, and motivate (or at least fail to de-motivate) the right people to make these wonderful innovations?
 
Hi +Steve Wozniak can you explain the "other names" listed in your G+ profile? (Berkeley Blue, Evets Kainzow, Pete Rose, Officer Pete Jasik, Rocky Raccoon Clark, Stanley Zebrezuskinitsky).
 
+Steve Wozniak Thanks for sharing this on here, it's absolutely amazing how bad JOBS turned out.   I spoke to you on the phone a few years back after your business card was featured on Gizmodo.  I doubt you remember me but, it's one of those small event's that I look back fondly on.  If you are ever in Chicago please consider stopping by our 1871 startup incubator and motivating/inspiring some of the next generation.
 
+Tom Balazs Evets Kainzow is Steve Wozniak backwards the others I'd love to know what they are too! I'm sure there's a great story with them all! Great question!
 
+Steve Wozniak
Steve, you're an inspiration to us all. Your candor and genuine nature and views on technology of both today and yesterday are a rare thing in this world. I am not sure if there is anyone else on this planet who shares your honesty and ingenuity in the world of technology. We all owe you a great deal and are glad that daily reminders of your hard work, perseverance and brilliance exist throughout our lives. You're the man.
 
True, it is better to have a miniserie. (Listening Dylan - Rainy Day Women) iWoz Thanks!!

 
+Steve Wozniak I just incremented your 1010 number of +1's with mine. People are often incorrectly portrayed in books and movies - the good thing is that everyone who has followed Apple over the years knows how important to the world your contributions have been. You're the man!!
 
Actually, Jobs was not fired. He could have been well funded to develop any product, even something like the NeXT, right at Apple. He was removed from running Macintosh because he had no good constructive ideas that were needed to save the company. He felt that some small adjustments in pricing, and diverting funds from our revenue source, the Apple ][, would make the Macintosh an instant success. The Macintosh was great and was the future in the eyes of those who displaced Jobs. But it was time to be adult and realistic. Hard work to build a Macintosh market would be needed. I’m sad too that the Macintosh wouldn’t sell just on its own.

Jobs decided to leave, telling me that he felt his life was about making computers and that he couldn’t do it at Apple. In the end, his life was about using computer technology for consumer products, even today’s smart phones. He actually had a string of failures trying to develop the next computer. It’s possible that he really left out of spite, wanting to challenge Apple, or out of embarrassment over the Macintosh failure in the market.

Still, he had plenty of wealth that came all from the Apple ][ to invest in NeXT and Pixar and that gave him the chance to mature as an executive.
 
+Steve Wozniak Steve, do you think the creators of "Pirates" did a good job of portraying the early years at Apple and between you and Jobs?

Also - when you guys first visited PARC and saw the GUI and all of their research, is it a safe bet to say that Jobs "knew" this was the future of computing (the GUI for that matter) or was it a more iterative process of trying to figure out how things really worked together and then engineering them on your end at Apple? In particular, were items such as cascading windows, smooth scrolling and the logic involved behind GPU processing immediately available from PARC or did they need you and the team at Apple to make it a reality? -- would it have remained as research if you guys didn't go there?
 
I seen part of this movie after I saw Pirates of Silicon Valley and I say I seen only part because in the first 20-25 minutes I realised that this not realistic and doesn't present the facts as they were. 

Thanks +Steve Wozniak for bringing light in how the events occurred.
 
+Steve Wozniaksadly, most people are lazy to check on facts, and simply regurgitate information that it's neatly package for their consumption.

Steve Jobs cult heroe status, is perhaps, his most masterful product spin.

Someday, most probably and sadly when you are gone, the truth about your contributions will be widely known, and Steve Jobs true contributions of the early days of apple will be put into perspective. 
 
Steve thank you for all those years of madness! 

I'm French and I started computing in 1982 through the Apple 2e. 
It is always sad to see the same main subject in these films: dollars, dollars and dollars ... 

Geeks are not understandable from the outside, that's all. 
It is not possible to earn money by having only one goal to earn money. 

An idea that is thousands of hours of work to reach the end of the idea, the product must be a Geek daily, minute and second of his life time. 

Thx again for Steve for ][e
 
saw the movie. It sucked and most things that occurred is so skewed and so false its almost a disgrace to Steve himself. Clearly just riding the death of jobs and popularity of his name. Not a real Jobs movie imo. 1 star.
 
+Steve Wozniak Is there a book where we can read the real story? Never a Movie will tell the accurate story, sadly people don't want it. I would like to know what you think about Pirates of the Silicon Valley movie.
 
Two good books that also provide perspective: "Hackers Heroes of the Computer Revolution" by Steven Levy and "Steve Jobs: The Journey is the Reward" - both written decades ago. "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" is another good book that provides some perspective here. Those awesome books will make you reminisce for some bygone days. Trying hard to bring some of the excitement of the Homebrew Computer Club back with TechBreakfast!
 
+Steve Wozniak Can I ask a personal question - Were you close with Steve Jobs after Apple? Can you call him close friend? or more - a business partner?
Thanks  
 
I read Steve Jobs biography and thought the movie did a horrible job of telling his story. It definitely glossed over a lot of important aspects, and could be seen as confusing for people that did not read his biography.
 
+Steve Wozniak thanks so much for commenting! My biggest complaint with the movie was how obviously they skimmed over everything, and it left me wanting desperately to know the full story and what was left out. I'm going to check Amazon right now to see if you have an autobiography.
 
+Steve Wozniak I have been expecting to hear more or less what you posted since pirates of silicon valley came out.
 
+Luciano Rodrigues da Silva  Steve Wozniak does have a biography published. I did the audiobook version, which was a great listen. 
 
+Steve Wozniak
     Steve, you have always been my hero.  Life-long geek, tinkerer, and endless curiosity.
     Thanks for staying real.
 
My understanding was that Jobs and Gates were thieves, stealing and lying about products they didn't make, software they didn't code...and there were huge lawsuits...this all happened in the 1990s.  Jobs became this legend later after people forgot about his behavior in the beginning.  Too bad really.  Well that's history.  We forget the bad stuff so we can move on.
 
+Steve Wozniak -Thank you so much for taking the time to give us all this background on the movie. My wife and I, who are big tech geeks, really appreciate all you've done. I especially appreciate your generosity. It's clear that you haven't let success change you (for God's sake, you still stand in line with all of the rest of us early adopters). I am always happy to watch good people succeed! 
 
+Steve Wozniak Thanks for all the fish! I have just one question:

After everything that has happened, through all the various positive and negative experiences, do you think Jobs always understood how instrumental you were? When all is said and done, do you feel there was a mutual respect there? Because for better or for worse, the juice must have been worth the squeeze?

Thanks again. 
 
+Steve Wozniak That you were the herald for squishy human potential , and that Jobs got successful when he transcended his love for cold, lifeless computers, is just a beautiful tale that maybe wouldn't fit into any movie. Thanks so much for the illumination. 
 
+Steve Wozniak I'll never forget the first time I encountered a Macintosh (and a Lisa), sometime towards the end of 1984 at the impressionable age of 12. I wanted to be a doctor but was already somewhat interested in programming (unfortunately it was on Commodore PET's) but I was the last kid in the neighborhood to get a computer (everyone had C64's and Apple ]['s at that point). I still don't know how I convinced my parents to buy a Mac on the spot, maybe it was the light in my eye, or maybe just the begging, because it was completely obvious even to my young eyes that blood/sweat/tears/heart was poured into this machine somehow. I ended up working after school at that store for many years, I distinctly remember installing the "WOZ signature edition" of the Apple IIGS in schools, with its "Integrated Woz Machine" chip! Anyway, to make a long story short, I ended up programming on the Mac for fun for some summers and now I am a back-end web developer on the Ruby language and it's awesome.

You're right that it's been an amazing journey to witness firsthand. Thanks for inspiring a generation to create and to compute to better the world!
 
I don't watch the Job's movie but i watched "pirates of silicon valley" and i liked it. What about this movie +Steve Wozniak ?
 
+Syed Shoaib his comments sound much more insightful than any of the discussions on Jobs in popular media. I guess the media (and thus popular culture) constructed and interpreted the story of Jobs and Apple in a manner which would sound most sensational.
And as far as Pirates of Silicon Valley goes, I think we should watch it again when you're in Delhi. Really enjoyed it the last time. May be +priyanka singh can join us too. We can play some Honey Singh after the movie... :-D 
 
I read the book about Jobs and did watch the movie. It was not a documentary or a biography, rather, just a movie. I did like the movie even though the story was fluff in many regards. Thanks to Steve W for chiming in here to clarify and get perspective.
 
+Steve Wozniak Thanks for the no-nonsense straight-talking in your responses. Great to read.  [From a former Commodore 64 evangelist!]
 
I love how +Steve Wozniak's responses always exude class.

I listened to the +Audible versions of both the Steve Jobs biography, read by its author, and iWoz, which was delightfully read by Woz himself. I got a lot out of both books, but really felt most impressed, then and now, by +Steve Wozniak's personal character.

You've truly got a heart of gold, Woz! May you be blessed with many more years of happiness and joy.
 
+Steve Wozniak Woz, what do you say about "Pirates of Sillicon Valley"? Do you consider it more accurate to the real facts? PS: I still didn't watch "Jobs".
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+Steve Wozniak You're my hero. There's more to life than just money and fame. I believe in living a simple and spiritual life. Thank you sir.
 
+Steve Wozniak You're the man. I can't put it any more simply. You're a true role model and inspiration to everybody who knows you. Thank you for existing, doing what you've done, and being who you are.
 
+Steve Wozniak Thank you Steve. In this short comment you've given us more insight than the book+movie ever could. Personally, I believe that computers would have made their way into our lives regardless of the manufacturer. Thank you again for being a part of it! 
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