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There still are just about no other ICS phones out, are there? And even if there are, by now no one has any confidence that they'll ever see the upgrade to the next version of Android 5.0 ("Jellybean"?) in a timely manner or at all.

So it would make sense to go with the safe bet of a Google-sponsored phone that you know will have the updates first. Possibly for a very long time...

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That is a shame as in the UK had mine for about 6 weeks or so. My last phone gave up on me Nokia X6. Came back last week and SIM did not work so back again. Took a chance as a replacement was for renewal next month. Wicked Phone have to say and also kind of big if you have small hands. Fits like a glove♠
I've wondered about this. It is a complete shame, because the Android seems to be a very nice/good mobile OS, but this kind of thing will make me hesitate about switching out my iphone. Decisions, decisions. (And yes, I know the pros and cons of both; but one thing I expect of both evil empires is up to date OS!)
I really wish Google would put out another phone with a real keyboard.
Don't like iPhone, but will agree on one thing that both do keep there OS's up to Date. Which was lacking from Nokia big time.
Confirming the theory and the practice of going with a Google phone, I just received ICS on my Nexus S. The real question is this: How big of a problem is fragmentation for the end user?
Thanks for that update, none from my carrier even though I have the device. in UK each carrier has different delivery dates for ICS update and also Gingerbread to ICS.
+Alexander Becker it's a big issue if you have any clue about the phones and their performance pre- and post-ICS. Which Android users are more prone to have, on average, possibly...

I think the other Android OEMs have been making a huge, short-sighted mistake in this regard, and they will see their come-uppance ("Quittung") for this before long...
+Raymond Ward at least they have those in the works! Keep in mind that the Nexus S is roughly a peer to the Samsung Galaxy S, and mine will never see a non-rooted/flashed upgrade to ICS, even though the phone is perfectly fine specs-wise and could benefit from the stability/perf enhancements of ICS.

But the Android OEMs want to push their crap-ware/"skins" on the phones, and it turns out that some of the older one MAY not be able to run that inefficient junk. Plus they really just want you to upgrade to a new phone of theirs...
Yes and no +Alex Schleber. I'm aware of performance issues post ICS (not on my phone luckily) but the iconoclastic question is whether or not every device actually needs the latest version? I'm playing devil's advocate here and while ICS is nicer than GB for me as a geek, my parent generation and many peers also, just don't notice a difference without much pointing out... Same for apps, almost all of mine were forward compatible.
+Alex Schleber this is my first Droid phone ever have to admit. Before this Nokia since 2005. With your point, Galaxy S last year voted phone of the year. With tech not broken why fix it.

In the end I can see why this phone is a popular Droid handset.
I don't care about performance, but I care a good deal about security patches.
+Alexander Becker +Cindy Brown I've seen video evidence that ICS fixes a lot of stability issues, especially on Gen. 1 Honeycomb tablets, but also on older Android phones. I have my Galaxy S rooted but not flashed to ICS as I just haven't had the time to deal with it while risking bricking my phone for any length of time.

From everything I've read, the jump in quality from 2.3 to 4.0 is substantial, really if you think about how new Android still was a a mainstream phone OS in 2010/early 2011, that makes a lot of sense. From here I probably agree with you, that it MAY not be as crucial to update to each and every new version. But who knows... there may be so many new features introduced that the need will still be there, unlike say for desktop OSs...
Gave my 9020T Nexus S to my niece. Few weeks later it OTA'ed to ICS. It feels and looks a lot better than before. She was elated.
The point is with a regular update setup in place, you're also much more secure, as you'll get security patches much sooner. This kind of huge delay in anything does hurt performance upgrades, of course, but means the security risk is much higher as known but unfixed security issues remain in the mobile pool for much longer than on typical desktop OS.
I am actually very surprised how ICS performed on the Nexus S. I thought the hardware couldn't handle it, but the Nexus S actually felt faster than ever before. Its like the phone is reborn. With used Nexus S in the market, you can turn them into entry level ICS devices, for those in a budget or don't like too big of a phone.
+Chris Robato YES! Exactly what I've heard from people rooting Galaxy S and flashing to ICS, as well as for Galaxy Tabs, asf. ICS is simply a better, more mature OS and the kinks have largely been worked out of it.

The Android OEMs made a HUGE mistake not upgrading to ICS, even without their (mostly useless) skins. They could have locked in customer loyalty in a big way, and let's face it, no one is buying e.g. a Samsung for their particular software/OS expertise.
I finally gave in and put the Nexus S ICS on my Captivate a month ago, and have had it on my 10" tablet. The battery life on the phone went from 6 days to 3, but the performance and stability is really good, and all the hacks and tweaks are now built-in. I do hate the channels that the ROMs have to go through for non-root users though. They might be waiting an extra year if ever, and then get bloatware and skins that make the devices sluggish and irritating. They need to cut out the middle man and get it out faster somehow.
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