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This morning I read about how KDEnlive is now dead or development has stopped or the maintainer is "missing" or .. something like that. 

Funny thing: I was using Kdenlive just last night. Seemed perfectly fine and in good working order.  Because it is Free software and isn't dependent on any one person. The last developer on earth could disappear and the software would still be available.

Phoronix and /. were the all-too-usual sources for the sensationalized version of the story. 

The person who wrote into Phoronix about it said, " The worst thing that could happen would be that no one is every aware that there's a problem, but that there's just never a new release again as people drift away." Now that is sensible. If development has slowed to a crawl, the answer is for others to step up and continue on this fantastic piece of work.

Phoronix could have taken the opportunity to promote that exact sentiment and been a useful source of incentive in the Free software community. Sadly, Phoronix turned it into a sensational headline and then /. one-up'd them.

Anyone who thinks negative is the only way should take a page from the crazily positive omg!ubuntu site which does amazingly well for itself. I find it nearly as accurate as Phoronix, but they do it with positivism. See? It can be done.
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well Phoronix only exists to create as many clicks as possible. All articles are like that. Quality doesn't matter as long as large quantity of people clicks there.

It's a sad story overall in media: https://xkcd.com/1283/
 
Phoronix also claims that KWin is less performant because the show fps effect only displays 59fps
 
When I read about the supposed Kdenlive demise in Phoronix, I thought about you!
I hope that Kdenlive will be alive and kicking and this kind of 'news' will motivate talented programmers to help it advance further...After all, it is the best opensourced videoprocessing app we have!
 
Right, the article is written from the incorrect POV but still it'd be good to know if j-b-m decided to find happiness somewhere else or he had something really bad happen to him.
 
Curious if the developer is actually missing?
 
If its working well, I don't see the problem. Rewriting the software every few years and constantly fiddling with it can ruin a good thing IMHO.
 
Phoronix is the Fox News of Free Software. Always sensationalist headlines. Should be renamed Phor-o-news...
 
And yet it does its job of keeping us informed about linux graphics. LWN rarely reports about that topic, for instance.
 
+Alessandro Ebersol People in my circle of friends often refer to it as "Moronix" :)

+Michael Hasselmann Phoronix actually does a fairly horrible job of that, as much of the time the information they present about Linux graphics is woefully incorrect and/or incomplete.

Since you mentioned LWN, I wish LWN would expand its scope with more writers while keeping its editorial standards, because then we might see actually useful commentary on Linux graphics. That would probably require more funding ...
 
I am fully aware of the incorrectness. But if an article pops up on Phoronix it usually still contains enough pointers for me to do my own research. I rarely read the articles thoroughly.
 
Indeed, take it with a grain of salt... Or many (In Phoronix case.)
 
That certainly puts you several streets ahead of many others then :)
 
LWN could also do with stricter moderation of comments, to keep those regulars away who live in echo chambers and don't realize how cynical they have become after all those years. Oh well -- wishful thinking, just in time for x-mas ;-)
 
Heh .. indeed.. reading the "we don't need no stinking Wayland, x.org is perfection!" type comments there is sometimes moderately depressing ;)
 
+Aaron Seigo keep in mind that most people are concerned of losing what is good is already in X11 and get something new but more broken for their usecase (e.g. client-side-borders vs server-side-borders).

Then you have the mindless fans, both sides.
 
The Phoronix article is completely fine and accurate. But bashing Michael, who had given up his regular life for nearly a decade to run Phoronix up to the point where he suffers from health issues is the new cool thing, I know. Yes, some articles/benchmarks are pointless, but tell me a site which is 100% relevant.
 
+Dennis Martin Herbers em, we bash Michael because he gets things wrong and he writes in a tabloid manner. Believe it or not, some of us, say me, have been doing the whole gaming / reviews on /Linux thing long before Phoronix came around. And before you wave the flag that the site's caused Michael health issues, you might want to hold your tongue and consider the health issues that caused other journalists to have to scale back on their reporting over the years. 

You might also want to consider that some journalists went out of their way to HIDE  that they had any health issues, much less made any kind of noise asking for help on those issues to their readership. If this seems a bit anvilicious, I'm surprisingly okay with that now. 
 
Every single journalist I know falls slightly towards the crazy side of the coin.
 
+Dennis Martin Herbers "tell me a site which is 100% relevant."

Everyone makes mistakes and has error margins; I expect perfection from no one. The foundation of journalistic integrity, however, is minimizing the error margins by fact checking and balanced reporting.

What turns my screws with Phoronix is that they quite obviously sensationalize with intention and write more stories than they have the ability to fact check.
 
+Luca Barbato "most people are concerned of losing what is good is already in X11"

Can you describe these aspects of X.org for me?

The one good thing I can say for it is that it has fairly broad hardware support and is a mature code base.

Outside of that, it tends to do most things less than well given what we know now and how we write as well as use software. Even X11's network transparency is fairly well broken thanks to modern rendering techniques in toolkits.
 
+Aaron Seigo

Personally I'm looking forward to see what's blooming with Wayland (and how mir is making the two projects evolve at a faster pace).

I like he smarter-framebuffer approach so far, I dislike certain proposals and design details of weston and I'm mildly concerned somebody would manage to keep it linux only.

On the other hand, the small things personally like of X11 and I'd want to keep are the multiple copy buffers (middle click copy&paste), a first class network support, including those curious features such as vim remoting.

Sub-surfaces seem to solve the problem with video direct rendering decently and the mini-compositing system should make easier richer embedding.

Wayland is improving a lot over time and I think we'll see if it can complement or replace X11 properly in few years.
 
+Luca Barbato ", I dislike certain proposals and design details of weston"

Same here, but that's OK: you don't have to use Weston .. Plasma 2 will still have KWin :)

"multiple copy buffers"

Possible with Wayland extensions

"first class network support"

we don't even have that anymore in practice with X11 since nearly all rendering is now client side. that said, Wayland will almost certainly get something very similar (though more rdesktop-ish)

"Sub-surfaces seem to solve the problem with video direct"

Yep .. lots of good evolution in wayland to resolve these kinds of hard issues.

"I think we'll see if it can complement or replace X11 properly in few years."

we all are :)
 
+Luca Barbato "I'd want to keep are the multiple copy buffers (middle click copy&paste)"
at least in Plasma this will still be possible. I use that and will make sure that it continues to work ;-)
 
X11 is portable to the *BSDs, solaris, AIX...  Wayland is interesting, but it is linux only (at least currently - it isn't clear if that will change)
 
+Henry Miller FreeBSD has support for GEM and KSM and iirc patches to fill the missing holes in wayland had been sent.
 
I'd take Phoronix over OSNews any day. At least Phoronix does original research and doesn't just copy from other sites.
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+Markus S. I think the amount of research Michael does is often rather minimal... I respect the guy for what he's trying to do (report on progress with the Linux Desktop)... He's generally responsive to constructive comments in the forums.

But the implementation of the main site is just really bad... To have a site that's so riddled with Flash ads that you can barely see it (OK to monetise it - but it's currently crippled with ads)... To try and churn out a click-bating story every hour or so... Facts have often gone out the window in this scenario... Phoronix has become a joke for many Linux users and podcasts, etc.
 
I subscribed Phoronix's RSS feed and only open articles I care about (and I have Adblock in my browser).
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