So, kink and TBLG+/Queer/GSD/etc (hereafter for simplicity, Queer) movements have a checkered history of co-involvement (heck, T + L + G + B have had a checkered involvement, but that's another discussion). One current prevailing take on things is the Kink per se doesn't belong in Queer movements. It does, in this view, in the sense that there are kinky people that are otherwise Queer, but it doesn't in that as far as this view is concerned Kink isn't itself Queer. I'm not necessarily disputing the view right now, but I'm curious.
I mean, Kink isn't just about sex, so saying that Kink being Queer is just reducing Queer to sex is insulting isn't accurate. Kink is often framed as not a lifestyle choice but rather a sexual and relational sense of self that folk find identity in, and various Queer identifications are sometimes self-described as lifestyle choices or temporary current accurate descriptors and less as deeper permanent identities, so it can't be some "Born This Way" or "Identity vs Lifestyle" thing. If it's based on oppression and discrimination a person can certainly face situations that can be classified as oppression for being involved in kink especially if public about it. If Queer identities are included based on what is functionally self-described-as-belonging-to-queer-identities and not-cis-het, as for example recent rising discussions on Cis Het Aromantics belonging in Queer spaces (a hot topic if my queer feeds are to be believed, anecdote not being data), then Cis Het Kink isn't inherently disqualified.
So yeah. Basically I'm having issue finding solid ground that casts Kink-on-it's-own out of Queer spaces, and I want to invite lots of thoughts here.
For simplicity, if only folx who are queer beyond kink could comment in this thread for now, that would be nice. People who feel strongly about King-as-Queer-in-itself I want to hear from you as well (if you care to share), but if you could instead message me privately or tag me in your own threads at least right now that would be wonderful. It's just a clash I'd rather avoid at this immediate moment on my own personal wall, because I know feelings are very strong.
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